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Domain General: Re: Change of Ownership Issue

In topic: Change of Ownership Issue

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On Mar, 22 2007 16:39 CET, Vishrut wrote:
Thanks for your response. It seems my customer care representative has
forgotten about me. This is the email which I sent to your customer
care which I have got no response from.

It is your business to protect my domain, I agree. It is not your
business to steal my domain's control from me. I don't want a change
of
owner. I just want an email address associated with the owner account,
an email address which WAS ALREADY LISTED in the whois registry before
the transfer to Gandi.net.

You have my driver's license. If I am a thief, please send the police
after me. Send them to my house. But till then, please associate the
email address originally listed with my owner account.

I am not trying to steal the domain from someone else. You already
have
a copy of my driver's license and my house address. It is the same as
the Owner's address of my site. I can forward all emails which you
sent
to me first asking for my permission, then confirming the transfer.
Those emails were sent to the REGISTERED email address for my domain
(which did exist). Now I find no mention of that email address
anywhere. Why is that? If you copied the whois details so carefully,
shouldn't the email address also have been taken?

And if you say that there was no email address listed with the domain,
then why did I receive emails on that email address? It isn't listed
anywhere in my account. It is because THAT was the email listed for my
domain.

I have those emails stored with all the message headers and I will
forward them all to you in case you wish it.
I received 5 emails from Gandi.net and 3 emails from GoDaddy asking
for
my permission and confirming the transfer.

My case no. is 510954 if you wish to follow it up.

This is the email I sent to the person in customer care I was speaking
to.

Dear <name of customer care representative>,

Let me clarify some things to you so that the facts are clear to both
of
us.

Firstly, the domain <domain>.com did have a valid email ID associated
with it. That email ID was <email address>. If you want, I can forward
you the emails which my former registrar GoDaddy sent to me confirming
the transfer request. Furthermore, I can forward you the emails which
YOU ( GANDI.NET) sent to me confirming my transfer. Those emails were
sent to <email address> as that was the registered email address. I am
ready to forward these emails if you so wish it.
This proves that there was an email address associated with
catalyseintl.com. But when my owner handle was made, which I did not
ask for, this information was very conveniently not included in that
handle. Why is that? If you would be so kind as to provide me with an
answer, I would be grateful.

Secondly, I am listed as the Administrative, Technical and Billing
contact for the domain. Do you think I am lying? I also have ownership
of the email address <email address 1> and of <email address 2>. These
email addresses are or were associated with this domain name. I think
that is SUFFICIENT proof that I am the owner.

Furthermore, I made the transfer to Gandi.net. I had access to the
authorization key. This again proves that I am the owner.

Why not let common sense prevail and just let me have ownership of a
domain which I own?
As for the documents you need, I have sent you my driver's license,
which has my name and address listed. This address is the same as the
OWNER ADDRESS. It is also the same as the Technical, Administrative
and
Billing address. This proves that I am the owner. I do not think it is
NECESSARY that I send you any documents of my company. No other
registrar has ever asked for such documents.

Needless to say, I am very unhappy at the current state of affairs.
All I want is a simple change of email address. It is not that hard to
do.

I do not wish to wait another 24 hours for your email, only to be told
that I need to send additional documents.

Please help me get ownership of the domain which I OWN. I have made
the
transfer to Gandi and have paid you money for the service of being my
registrar. Please act like you are on my side and give me some service
and support.

If you are unclear about any of the things written above, please do
not
hesitate to contact me and I will explain everything further.

Looking forward to a positive reply from your side.

Regards.
Hello,

The owner of the domain name catalyseintl.com is Catalyse International.
The owner of  catalyseintl.com before the transfer of the domain name to
Gandi was Catalyse International, and as listed in the whois before the
transfer, you can see that the former registrar did not include an
e-mail address for the owner:

   Catalyse International
   H-3, Green Park Extension
   New Delhi, Delhi 110016
   India

Because the owner of a domain does not change during a transfer, the
Gandi handle CI622-GANDI was created from the whois information
provided by the former registrar as belonging to the owner of the
domain. This is why a new owner handle was made, and why there is no
e-mail address associated with it.

In order to change the owner, or information about the owner (such as
the e-mail address) it is necessary to demonstrate that the person
making the request is the owner of the domain. In this case, the owner
is the company, "Catalyse International" and not "Vishrut Singh Seera".


Consequently, in order to proove that you are the owner or entitled to
act on behalf of the owner of the domain name, we require, for any
change to the owner account:

- A valid and current legal document (such as a certificate of
incorporation) in the name of "Catalyse International", the owner of
the domain. This document must display the name of the company, and the
name of the person who is entitled to act on behalf of the company
(president, CEO, Director, etc).

- A government-issued photo ID of the person who is named on the
aforementioned document,

- The e-mail change form (in the case of such a procedure) that states
and is signed by the name of the person listed in the legal document of
the company, and on the ID provided.

The combination of these three documents is what will allow us to verify
that you have the right to act on behalf of the owner of the domain
name. 

Upon the reception of these documents, the requested change may occur
rapidly.
Ryan
http://www.gandi.net/